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Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Mulsiphix » Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:43 pm

I know a lot of the better players are able to "time power-ups", I hear that phrase mentioned a lot, but I don't understand exactly how its done. Could someone explain this to me? :oops:
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Sauron » Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:27 pm

It depends on the timing. If the powerup is, say, 55 seconds, when its picked up at 7:47 remaining the easiest way for me to remember is just subtracting a minute a adding 5 seconds. So 6:47+5 is 6:52. Easy math and easy to time.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Mulsiphix » Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:57 pm

Sauron wrote:It depends on the timing. If the powerup is, say, 55 seconds, when its picked up at 7:47 remaining the easiest way for me to remember is just subtracting a minute a adding 5 seconds. So 6:47+5 is 6:52. Easy math and easy to time.
So someone like Element who dominates most power-ups on both sides of the map is timing all those power-ups at the same time?! Jeeesh. And those Duel players who have to time weapons as well :shock:. *shutter* So much left to learn and master :?
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Sauron » Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:01 pm

In team games, certain people will time certain pups. Or maybe one guy will concentrate on timing. In duels its probably a mixed bag with timing the best pups and weapons and just luck with map control. Usually all it takes is getting the pup down a couple times then the opponent loses focus completely with regard to timing.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby KillEmAll » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:37 pm

Timing in ut4 is a little easier with regards to the math. 30 for everything except belt, amp, and keg. belt at 60, the rest at 90. They don't spawn right at map start, so gather weapons and position yourself for them. Good duelers will delay the pickups to offset the times.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby RoOkIe » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:05 pm

Mulsiphix wrote:
Sauron wrote:It depends on the timing. If the powerup is, say, 55 seconds, when its picked up at 7:47 remaining the easiest way for me to remember is just subtracting a minute a adding 5 seconds. So 6:47+5 is 6:52. Easy math and easy to time.
So someone like Element who dominates most power-ups on both sides of the map is timing all those power-ups at the same time?! Jeeesh. And those Duel players who have to time weapons as well :shock:. *shutter* So much left to learn and master :?


Timing weapons and armors in Duel really isn't too complicated. A lot of it comes from experience after a while and a natural instinct to feel when things will come up, especially if you're listening to what's being grabbed around the map.

You can also get into a rhythm pretty easily if you've got control of the armors and belt. Since the vest and thigh pads spawn every 30 seconds, along with the weapons, you can stagger a good pattern on many maps. Say for example Erase, you can easily delay the vest pick-up, then get rockets > shock > flak > belt > sniper > repeat, or something similar. It seems complicated but it's not really.

The tricky part can be to not get too stuck in an exact movement pattern when controlling everything, else you'll run into spam or a trap.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Darkside » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:27 pm

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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Mulsiphix » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:49 pm

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Haha. I was actually curious if some folks actually used some sort of timing program or script. You could create such a thing using something like AutoHotKey pretty easily and have it feed the information to you in game. Similar to how the bots tell you when power-ups are about to come up. Some folks are just so damn precise it is ridiculous. Element/Chanserv is one such individual that comes to mind :lol:
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Sauron » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:44 am

Itbwoukd be considered a cheat if you use something to time. That said, you could use a smartphone and it would be undetectable. Would be easy to make a timing app.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Mulsiphix » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:05 pm

Sauron wrote:Itbwoukd be considered a cheat if you use something to time.
Indeed. It would be far better to cultivate the skill set anyway. I'll get there! Just probably not for awhile lol. The other day I was playing Defense in a PUG and someone told me to watch the Armor in the base. I went from playing great to us losing the game because I couldn't do both effectively. Seemed every time I went for the armor somebody would trans in and grab the flag. Didn't seem to matter how long I waited or if the coast looked clear, BAM!!, they were there :oops:.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Sauron » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:33 pm

Place a trans at the flag and push to the armor every minute 30 or however long. Would only leave the flag uncovered for a second or two
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Mulsiphix » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:27 pm

Sauron wrote:Place a trans at the flag and push to the armor every minute 30 or however long. Would only leave the flag uncovered for a second or two
Seems like common sense but that did not occur to me. I will definitely start doing this! Thank you Sauron :D
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby finalzje » Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:23 pm

Sauron wrote:Itbwoukd be considered a cheat if you use something to time. That said, you could use a smartphone and it would be undetectable. Would be easy to make a timing app.


Seen SDOM item timing applets in UT99, would not be hard to alter for UT4 use :p
So yes, its already out there.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Cookiemonster » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:35 am

Yeah mane I'd just say that in UT4 it's actually easier than in previous iterations, in that the powerups are either 30, 60, or 90 seconds. That helps a lot. Honestly, the more you do it, the more it will just become a mental reflex. You'll also be able to time the power ups when certain weapons come up, because they also spawn every 30 seconds, and depending on whether or not you're dueling, you can often control the map doing this. I could be talking completely out of my asshole but hey that's pretty much it.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Junkyardboy » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:03 pm

most practical way of timing things are picking up weapons/ammo that are near by the armor and power ups(especially armor) and if you can visibly see the weapons/ammo have respawned (or just respawned), you can have it timed almost down to the milisecond as to when the armor is going to be spawning.
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Re: Can Anybody Explain How Players Time Power-ups?

Postby Lineage » Sat May 14, 2016 11:49 am

finalzje wrote:
Sauron wrote:Itbwoukd be considered a cheat if you use something to time. That said, you could use a smartphone and it would be undetectable. Would be easy to make a timing app.


Seen SDOM item timing applets in UT99, would not be hard to alter for UT4 use :p
So yes, its already out there.


So what you're saying is, people* were cheating at timing sDom pups this entire time? :roll:
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