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Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby atr0city » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:02 pm

Everyone already knows that pretty much every admin is either a) inactive, and doesn't give a fuck and won't help you out with anything whatsoever. or b) somewhat active, but totally abuses admin on a daily basis.

To cite another example of b). Today I joined an iCTF pug. FlowX goes red captain, it rand capt's dannon vs him which isn't that fair of capts but not a huge deal there as teams could have been made somewhat fair still.

Flowx picks Nick (most blatant cheater of all time) first pick, so he's already guaranteed to win the pug by landslide. Dannon, who doesn't know what he's doing picks me.. and then picks BryanDGM, who in this pug should have been last pick or close to last pick.

So, instead of either leaving us who dannon should have picked (exixt) flowx elects to pick exixt, and then the next best player in the pug after that. When asked by myself, and others to reset the pug as the teams were totally fucked and it would have been a 10-0 blowout waste of time (I even offered to captain) he replys with "teams are fine" when I continue to persist for a reset to fix the pug, he then perma bans me from the channel.

Pretty solid admin right here. Intentionally stacks teams, refuses to reset, and then perma bans me for asking for a reset. (Yes, after he ignored and refused to reset I called him a fucking idiot or something along those lines, trying to avoid a massive waste of time for everyone not even close to anything that warrants a ban)

This is not the first time flowX, and others have done stuff like this.

A select few admins are good, and admin the channel properly but for the most part the rest of the admins don't take it seriously at all and abuse their admin power constantly. This has been an ongoing problem for a long time, and I wanted to post about it because I know many others have been complaining about the admins lack of responsibility for a long time.

Given that Owned Well is trying to move into a more professional direction, the admin list is really something that really needs to be looked at and re-vamped with legit people who care and would use their admin power in the correct way.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby massie » Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:17 pm

agreed with ryan

flowx also plays lame as fuck but bans other ppl for doing it
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Darkside » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:42 pm

today i'm playing sdom and out of the blue my teammate larmor (playing vs scream - solo point) goes on a rant about scream messaging him mid map for his demo. like, i've pretty much never heard larmor get so upset about anything in my life. He continues to rant and rq's from server. autopause.... and then resulting irc shitshow.

While I have no idea why this frustrated larmor so much and I don't agree that he should have left the server, admin Scream should not be requesting pug demos from players mid map....especially not larmor?
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby kud » Tue Dec 23, 2014 4:56 pm

Darkside wrote:today i'm playing sdom and out of the blue my teammate larmor (playing vs scream - solo point) goes on a rant about scream messaging him mid map for his demo. like, i've pretty much never heard larmor get so upset about anything in my life. He continues to rant and rq's from server. autopause.... and then resulting irc shitshow.

While I have no idea why this frustrated larmor so much and I don't agree that he should have left the server, admin Scream should not be requesting pug demos from players mid map....especially not larmor?

if admins are allowed to request demos, what's the problem with requesting them during the game?
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby blackout\\ » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:10 pm

Dug up logs thanks to PC on 24/7.

11:45am (@LBot) ø The ictf pug has been filled. Type .captain to become a captain. Random captains in 30 seconds. ø
11:46am (+crux) .last
11:46am (@LBot) ø [shockDOM] ø Red Team: ramdrop csnafk NakedMan snakeware ø Blue Team: Cro Sauron[6-0] Jinn garegast ø 54mins 48secs ago ø
11:46am (@LBot) ø Random captains in 15 seconds. ø
11:46am (+Bryandigm`) .vote ryan\
11:46am (@LBot) ø Random captains in 5 seconds. ø
11:46am [Join] UK|Snitch ([email protected]) has joined #ipug
11:46am (@LBot) ø FrenchEmpire is captain for the Red Team. ø
11:46am (@LBot) ø danon3^ is captain for the Blue Team. ø
11:46am (@LBot) ø Captains have been picked. FrenchEmpire picks first. Captains type .here to prevent getting kicked. ø
11:46am (@flowX) .reset
11:46am (@LBot) ø Pug has been reset. Type .captain to become a captain. Random captains in 30 seconds. ø
11:46am (+Bryandigm`) .vote flowX
11:46am (@flowX) .captain
11:46am (@LBot) ø flowX is captain for the Red Team. ø
11:46am (@LBot) ø Random captains in 15 seconds. ø
11:46am (+Bryandigm`) .vote ryan\
11:46am (+exixt) vote doesn't work
11:46am (+exixt) never has
11:46am (+NICK) .vote ryan\
11:46am (@LBot) ø Random captains in 5 seconds. ø
11:46am (@flowX) stil fun^^
11:46am [Join] UK|Snitch|alt ([email protected]) has joined #ipug
11:46am (@LBot) ø danon3^ is captain for the Blue Team. ø
11:46am (@LBot) ø Captains have been picked. flowX picks first. Captains type .here to prevent getting kicked. ø
11:46am [Join] New ([email protected]) has joined #ipug
11:46am (+exixt) .vote NICK
11:46am (+exixt) .vote NICK
11:46am (@flowX) good caps
11:46am [Nick] old_but_gold is now known as obg
11:47am (@flowX) .here
11:47am (+NICK) rofl exixt
11:47am (danon3^) .here
11:47am (+NICK) traitor!
11:47am (danon3^) ..
11:47am (@flowX) .list
11:47am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 1) ryan\ 3) otb 5) m1s 6) NICK 7) Bryandigm` 8) exixt 9) DEATH[4of4] 10) FrenchEmpire ø
11:47am (+exixt) ;D
11:47am (@flowX) otb is?
11:47am [Join] B1O``` ([email protected]) has joined #ipug
11:47am (+exixt) I want it that way ~
11:47am [Quit] New ([email protected]) has quit IRC (Quit: Disconnected)
11:47am (+exixt) I want it that way ~
11:47am (+exixt) I want it that way ~
11:47am (@flowX) otb is?
11:47am (+exixt) massive
11:47am (+Bryandigm`) massie
11:47am (@flowX) .pick NICK
11:47am (@LBot) ø danon3^ now picks ø
11:47am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX NICK ø
11:47am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: danon3^ ø
11:47am (@flowX) no
11:47am [Join] New ([email protected]) has joined #ipug
11:47am (@flowX) otb is american?
11:47am (+exixt) oh that was obg
11:47am (danon3^) .p 1
11:47am (@LBot) ø danon3^ now picks ø
11:47am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX NICK ø
11:47am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: danon3^ ryan\ ø
11:47am (+exixt) yeah
11:47am (+exixt) fuck those names
11:47am (danon3^) .p 7
11:47am (@LBot) ø flowX now picks ø
11:47am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX NICK ø
11:47am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: danon3^ ryan\ Bryandigm` ø
11:47am (+NICK) why alias
11:47am (@flowX) .here
11:47am [Quit] New ([email protected]) has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
11:47am (+ryan\) what..
11:47am (+Bryandigm`) wtf
11:47am (+ryan\) reset
11:47am (+NICK) .ls
11:47am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 3) otb 5) m1s 8) exixt 9) DEATH[4of4] 10) FrenchEmpire ø
11:47am (+ryan\) ill capt
11:48am (danon3^) -.- ?
11:48am (@flowX) .pick 8
11:48am (@LBot) ø flowX now picks ø
11:48am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX NICK exixt ø
11:48am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: danon3^ ryan\ Bryandigm` ø
11:48am (@flowX) .here
11:48am (danon3^) oh
11:48am (+Bryandigm`) should of picked massie
11:48am (danon3^) no is brian
11:48am (+ryan\) reset...........
11:48am (danon3^) is bryan
11:48am (danon3^) xDDD
11:48am (+NICK) .ls
11:48am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 3) otb 5) m1s 9) DEATH[4of4] 10) FrenchEmpire ø
11:48am (danon3^) SRY
11:48am (+exixt) no
11:48am (+exixt) bryan is bryan
11:48am (m1s) RESET THIS FUCKING PUG BEFORE IT ENDS IN MISERY
11:48am (+ryan\) bryan is last pick here and we picked him 2nd
11:48am (+exixt) brian\\ is brian
11:48am (+exixt) LOL
11:48am (+exixt) :D
11:48am (@flowX) otb = Silence[T1Crew]
11:48am (m1s) RESET THIS FUCKING PUG BEFORE IT ENDS IN MISERY
11:48am (danon3^) SRY
11:48am (+ryan\) stop admin abusing and reset
11:48am (@flowX) .list
11:48am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 3) otb 5) m1s 9) DEATH[4of4] 10) FrenchEmpire ø
11:48am (danon3^) SRY
11:48am (m1s) RESET THIS FUCKING PUG BEFORE IT ENDS IN MISERY
11:48am (+ryan\) stop admin abusing and reset
11:48am (+NICK) 10 or nine
11:48am (@flowX) .pick 9
11:48am (@LBot) ø danon3^ now picks ø
11:48am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX NICK exixt DEATH[4of4] ø
11:48am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: danon3^ ryan\ Bryandigm` ø
11:48am (danon3^) .RESET
11:48am (@flowX) teams are fine
11:48am (+exixt) LOL
11:48am (m1s) I WILL SKULL FUCK YOU, BITCH!
11:48am (+ryan\) fucking reset u stupid fuck
11:48am (danon3^) .reset
11:48am (@flowX) danone better than me lately
11:48am (m1s) jk
11:48am (+Bryandigm`) ok get otb
11:48am [Mode] flowX sets mode: +b *!*@atr0city.user.globalgamers.net
11:48am [Kick] ryan\'s ass was kicked by flowX (ryan\)
11:48am (@LBot) ø Pug stopped because ryan\ quit. ø
11:48am [Mode] ChanServ sets mode: +b *!*@GlobalGamers-92E9949A.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
11:48am (+Bryandigm`) rofl
11:49am (@flowX) like 10th time he insulted me in 5 days
11:49am (+NICK) confirmed
11:49am (@flowX) enough thx
11:49am (%DEATH[4of4]) ...
11:49am (m1s) dude
11:49am (@flowX) .p ictf
11:49am -LBot:#ipug- ø Only 1 more needed for the ictf pug! ø
11:49am (m1s) ok fine
11:49am (@flowX) so tired of this behavour
11:49am (danon3^) flowX ..
11:49am (m1s) unban him and maybe he will stop
11:49am (danon3^) why no reset ?
11:49am (+Bryandigm`) ????????
11:49am (otb) lol
11:49am (%DEATH[4of4]) no freedom of speech?
11:49am (m1s) otherwise he'll keep doing it when he gets back anyway
11:49am (@flowX) we talked 3 times about it with ryan
11:49am (+Jinn) .j ictf
11:49am (Cro) .j ictf
11:49am (@LBot) ø The ictf pug has been filled. Type .captain to become a captain. Random captains in 30 seconds. ø
11:49am (@flowX) freedom of speech?
11:49am (@flowX) insulting people?
11:49am (@flowX) lol
11:49am (@flowX) q ip2
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby blackout\\ » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:12 pm

P.S. Old bonus logs of team bias for the win:

8:55am [Join] UK|Snitch|alt ([email protected]) has joined #ipug
8:55am (Ales) .list ictf
8:55am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 1) LowSkillGreg 2) Cromaniac 3) flowX 4) Ales[nocaptbrb] 5) Nitro^ 6) ShadowFax 7) meep_ 8) snakeware 9) DEATH[4of4] 10) dev ø
8:56am (@LBot) ø Random captains in 15 seconds. ø
8:56am (@egaenil`) lva*
8:56am (@LBot) ø Random captains in 5 seconds. ø
8:56am (@LBot) ø DEATH[4of4] is captain for the Red Team. ø
8:56am (@LBot) ø Nitro^ is captain for the Blue Team. ø
8:56am (@LBot) ø Captains have been picked. DEATH[4of4] picks first. Captains type .here to prevent getting kicked. ø
8:56am (@egaenil`) prolly 2
8:56am (@egaenil`) then 3/10/5
8:56am (@egaenil`) dont know 1
8:56am (@egaenil`) but it wont matter as they're afk
8:56am (%DEATH[4of4]) .here
8:57am (@egaenil`) death with the save
8:57am (+snakeware) q us
8:57am (@LBot) ø zp| [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [US] [=======] by www.unrealkillers.com ø [10/13] ø unreal://75.102.41.52:7777 [451] ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Map: CTF-Mythos ø Red Score: [2] Blue Score: [0] ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Red Team: ShadowFax[137] Acn0va[105] k3mikal[78] Front_242[43] ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: ~><Ø®ß@G~[KRU][128] LaG|Complete[102] HerrMannelig[87] Homoerectus[82] voices[41] ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Spectators: wom_are_idi ø
8:57am (%DEATH[4of4]) .p 3
8:57am (@LBot) ø Nitro^ now picks ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Red Team: DEATH[4of4] flowX ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: Nitro^ ø
8:57am (+snakeware) q uk
8:57am (@LBot) ø zp| [=======] [PURE] [INSTAGIB] [UK] [=======] by www.unrealkillers.com ø [12/13] ø unreal://185.16.85.10:7777 [451] ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Map: CTF-EternalCave ø Red Score: [0] Blue Score: [0] ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Red Team: gore-sv[37] OldFart[25] Monica_Levinsky[23] Thyrane[11] ZiLO^[6] BullDog^uk[4] ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: AlexZener[36] hosse[23] Little~Pierog[10] Loyal_Servitude[9] BADGIRL[0] ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Spectators: Kalaaleq ø
8:57am (+Nitro^) .ls
8:57am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 1) LowSkillGreg 2) Cromaniac 4) Ales[nocaptbrb] 6) ShadowFax 7) meep_ 8) snakeware 10) dev ø
8:57am (@egaenil`) flow over the sweeps
8:57am (+Nitro^) .p 2
8:57am (@LBot) ø Nitro^ now picks ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Red Team: DEATH[4of4] flowX ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: Nitro^ Cromaniac ø
8:57am (+Nitro^) .p 10
8:57am (@LBot) ø DEATH[4of4] now picks ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Red Team: DEATH[4of4] flowX ø
8:57am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: Nitro^ Cromaniac dev ø
8:57am (@flowX) .list
8:57am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 1) LowSkillGreg 4) Ales[nocaptbrb] 6) ShadowFax 7) meep_ 8) snakeware ø
8:57am (@egaenil`) heavy stack
8:57am (@egaenil`) rip
8:57am [Quit] shots|bbl ([email protected]) has quit IRC (Quit: - nbs-irc 2.39 - www.nbs-irc.net -)
8:57am (@flowX) .reset
8:57am (@LBot) ø Pug has been reset. Type .captain to become a captain. Random captains in 30 seconds. ø
8:57am (@flowX) sorry DEATH[4of4] but that was hardcore stacked^^
8:57am (@LBot) ø Random captains in 15 seconds. ø
8:58am (@flowX) .captain
8:58am (@LBot) ø flowX is captain for the Red Team. ø
8:58am (@LBot) ø Random captains in 5 seconds. ø
8:58am (@LBot) ø dev is captain for the Blue Team. ø
8:58am (@LBot) ø Captains have been picked. flowX picks first. Captains type .here to prevent getting kicked. ø
8:58am (@flowX) .list
8:58am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 1) LowSkillGreg 2) Cromaniac 4) Ales[nocaptbrb] 5) Nitro^ 6) ShadowFax 7) meep_ 8) DEATH[4of4] 10) snakeware ø
8:58am (@flowX) .pick Cromaniac
8:58am (@LBot) ø dev now picks ø
8:58am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX Cromaniac ø
8:58am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: dev ø
8:58am (@flowX) 1 = killer turk btw
8:58am (dev) .p 5
8:58am (@LBot) ø dev now picks ø
8:58am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX Cromaniac ø
8:58am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: dev Nitro^ ø
8:58am (@egaenil`) so it's not 2pac
8:58am (@egaenil`) what a liar
8:58am (dev) .ls
8:58am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 1) LowSkillGreg 4) Ales[nocaptbrb] 6) ShadowFax 7) meep_ 8) DEATH[4of4] 10) snakeware ø
8:58am (@flowX) should proly pick 1
8:58am [Join] Michee07 ([email protected]) has joined #ipug
8:58am [Quit] Michee07 ([email protected]) has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
8:58am (LowSkillGreg) no
8:58am (LowSkillGreg) .tag lastpick
8:59am (Ales) make it fair maik
8:59am (dev) i have no idea
8:59am [Join] Leon^ ([email protected]) has joined #ipug
8:59am (@flowX) ye
8:59am (@flowX) he should pick 1
8:59am (@flowX) .here
8:59am (Ales) 1 or 7
8:59am (dev) .p 1
8:59am (@LBot) ø flowX now picks ø
8:59am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX Cromaniac ø
8:59am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: dev Nitro^ LowSkillGreg ø
8:59am (@flowX) .list
8:59am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 4) Ales[nocaptbrb] 6) ShadowFax 7) meep_ 8) DEATH[4of4] 10) snakeware ø
8:59am (@flowX) i gonna leave u 7 and 8
8:59am (@flowX) .pick 4
8:59am (@LBot) ø flowX now picks ø
8:59am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX Cromaniac Ales ø
8:59am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: dev Nitro^ LowSkillGreg ø
8:59am (@flowX) .pick 6
8:59am (@LBot) ø dev now picks ø
8:59am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX Cromaniac Ales ShadowFax ø
8:59am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: dev Nitro^ LowSkillGreg ø
8:59am (@flowX) .list
8:59am (@LBot) ø iCTF ø [10/10] ø 7) meep_ 8) DEATH[4of4] 10) snakeware ø
8:59am (@flowX) 7(8
9:00am (dev) .p 7
9:00am (@LBot) ø dev now picks ø
9:00am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX Cromaniac Ales ShadowFax ø
9:00am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: dev Nitro^ LowSkillGreg meep_ ø
9:00am (dev) .p 8
9:00am (@LBot) ø Red Team: flowX Cromaniac Ales ShadowFax snakeware ø
9:00am (@LBot) ø Blue Team: dev Nitro^ LowSkillGreg meep_ DEATH[4of4] ø
9:00am (@LBot) ø Picking has finished. ø
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby m3ss » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:22 pm

Didn't you get caught cheating while you were on the admin staff?
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Darkside » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:28 pm

kud wrote:if admins are allowed to request demos, what's the problem with requesting them during the game?


ya it does seem trivial to me too but a demo request from an admin isn't something to be taken lightly. Scream should know that if larmor is seriously being accused and is under watch to go through different channels of communication. On TS it sounded to me Larmor was sick of his demo-requesting overall to everyone but i'm just an observer on this one.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Hermione » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:46 pm

LOL i get admin abused all the time, used to get it a lot worse back then from some characters, thats why i barely regard them except the 3 true admins.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby atr0city » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:51 pm

Thanks for posting logs of it blackout.

You'll notice I asked him like 7 times to reset before getting pissed off. I also like how after he perma banned me when he said to you guys "like the 10th time he's insulted me today" that is a 100% lie, I hadn't even talked to flowx at all in over a week. I wasn't even on IRC today before that pug.

Good stuff flowx.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Sauron » Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:42 pm

m3ss wrote:Didn't you get caught cheating while you were on the admin staff?


Doesn't mean he is wrong, regardless of his past.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Hinata » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:02 pm

Not surprised, the community didn't evolve at all. After all, this is the same (or kinda the same) admins as GU.
To be honest, the reason of your ban is more likely about your cheating past.

massie wrote:flowx also plays lame as fuck but bans other ppl for doing it


I remember complaining about FlowX for the exact same reason.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Morpheus » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:46 pm

FlowX's next step: world domination.

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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby flowX » Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:04 pm

hello. i may should have checked forums before i unbanned ryan again. that wasnt a perm ban . just a ban i wanted to keep for some hours to let u think about ur actin again?
last week we got a pug where u played 3rd D without any reason for 7 mins and u know u should have been banned for. i didnt ban u and just asked u if u may could stop insulting me or other admins+ players like someone with tourette syndrom..
u didnt and insulted me+many others every time without any reason...

11:48am (+ryan\) fucking reset u stupid fuck

thats what iv banned u for ..and all the other times uv been way more offensive with ur insults.
dunno if thats normal where ur comin from but for me it isnt. and i wont tolerate ur behaivour at all

stop actin like an idiot and whining about the consequences straight after.

instead of whining about the admins u should start to change urself maybe ryan? same for the few haters which make this topic even more useless
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Nick » Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:18 pm

atr0city wrote:
Dannon, who doesn't know what he's doing picks me..



Enjoyed that line :lol:

Oh and this:

by m3ss » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:22 pm
Didn't you get caught cheating while you were on the admin staff? :lol:

Seriously dude. Idc how many times you keep accusing me. I don't care how blantant you find me. You are an idiot to think that you can keep on talking shit to an admin. These guys are admins for a reason. They are helping this community out by banning idiots like yourself when they need to. You called flowX out numerous times and yes, it is understandable that he bans you for flaming him. You don't thank an admin by flaming him. Even tho teams looked stacked in your eyes, theres this thing called Trading.

It means that if a captain doesn't pick the right dude, because of whatever reason, captains can trade the picks. In that case he couldve traded exixt and bryandigm. No need to ask for a reset, let alone start flaming and hating on one of the few currently active admins.

And yes, there might be other cases. But I am pretty sure FlowX treats everyone equal. When I throw angry words at em, he will ban me. Even when another admin goes crazy, he will still step up for the community. I think people in the channel play for fun, and should be treated with respect. If you got a question and he is not replying, pm the man. In the end it is he who is here to help the community out. The ban is to get your ass calmed down, and hopefully in the future to get you to talk with some respect.

Once again I know you think im a sack of shit and I don't deserve any respect at all, since im so blantant and whatnot. #don'tcare.

Take care and try to be gentle, Peace.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Junkyardboy » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:15 am

Sauron wrote:
m3ss wrote:Didn't you get caught cheating while you were on the admin staff?


Doesn't mean he is wrong, regardless of his past.


couldn't agree more with this statement :arrow:

flowX wrote:hello. i may should have checked forums before i unbanned ryan again. that wasnt a perm ban . just a ban i wanted to keep for some hours to let u think about ur actin again?
last week we got a pug where u played 3rd D without any reason for 7 mins and u know u should have been banned for. i didnt ban u and just asked u if u may could stop insulting me or other admins+ players like someone with tourette syndrom..
u didnt and insulted me+many others every time without any reason...

11:48am (+ryan\) fucking reset u stupid fuck

thats what iv banned u for ..and all the other times uv been way more offensive with ur insults.
dunno if thats normal where ur comin from but for me it isnt. and i wont tolerate ur behaivour at all

stop actin like an idiot and whining about the consequences straight after.

instead of whining about the admins u should start to change urself maybe ryan? same for the few haters which make this topic even more useless


sounds like to me this was a revenge ban that never got dished out from 1 week ago for heltah playing 3defense against him for a short period of the map

11:49am (@flowX) like 10th time he insulted me in 5 days

IMO, very passive agressive ban and also a very selfish ban allowing a personal insult(so little) to kill the pug for 8 other players. you had a ton of options to rectify the situation and you took none of those actions and baited heltah by passively threatening to offset the pug by continuing to pick players stacking the teams without addressing heltah's request on the reset on the pug. he even volunteer'd he would captain, why would you not reset the pug? Looks like a typical revenge ban from 1 week ago because he was butt hurt.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby flowX » Wed Dec 24, 2014 6:15 am

revenge ban? how old am i...

like i said. his insults been way more offensive and many times lately. not only against me..

just 4 the info: captains been fair- danone hitting way more than me since months. and pug didnt die since people rejoined.
im known by the most people for always goin for fair teams and judging everyone the same.few biased posts doesnt change that at all.

there isnt anyone else beein that offensive against others in the whole community since im a part of it.
so pls stop trying to make it look anything personal cause ur friends of ryan or just dont like me.

i would even ban my best friends or myself if there is a reason to. nothing personal- not biased.


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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Sonic|^ » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:41 am

When bryan was picked over exixt that pug should have gotten reset.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby NakedMan » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:54 am

These teams weren't stacked at all so the drama's unnecessary , especially when danon plays better than flowx(and bryan ended up hitting more than exixt and playing just as good so hardly a last pick in that pug). The 2nd "bonus" log doesn't show anything else other than a needed reset(and flowX ended up picking the weaker team anyway imo).
This whole thing feels more like a personal attack against an admin more than him doing something which is actually wrong. Even if there are problems with the admins this is clearly not the case.

The ban was clearly not issued for asking for a reset but rather for you acting like a total dickhead to him , Also I wouldn't call someone "the most blatant cheater of all time" when you're an actual multiple times caught cheater who still averages better stats than him.

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^ this however is true :D
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby FALLACY » Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:56 am

Sounds like #iPug needs the LOLLACY\\ back to lay the hammer down. This type of stuff never happened when I was an admin. :OWgrinsgasm: :OWfacepalm:
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby JD » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:16 am

No ban needed for this.

Scream has also asked me for demos in sdom when I solo'd a point vs him. I said no and he threatened to ban me. I was getting questioned as to why I didn't demo when there was 5 minutes left in the pug. So my response was pause the pug and ill start the demo; sorry but im not wasting 10 seconds in sdom to start a demo. I can easily explain why I aim better in sdom and sniper rather then ictf..... Come play siege and see the 2 most used weapons :)

by m3ss » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:22 pm
Didn't you get caught cheating while you were on the admin staff?

NICK you enjoyed that line yet you have been caught cheating yourself :lol: Please start demoing every pug you play NICK, sniper yesterday was very suspicious :)
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Viperzz^ » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:36 am

Sonic|^ wrote:When bryan was picked over exixt that pug should have gotten reset.

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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Nick » Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:37 am

JD wrote:by m3ss » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:22 pm
Didn't you get caught cheating while you were on the admin staff?

NICK you enjoyed that line yet you have been caught cheating yourself :lol: Please start demoing every pug you play NICK, sniper yesterday was very suspicious :)


So in order for people to enjoy reading this line, they should be clean? What a bullcrap. I already am demoreccing for a PHew months now. Have send over 50 demo's to admins. Keep up JD. I don't care about you finding my 3rd sniper pug I play suspicious. Just contact any admin to request the demo, or ask me kindly and I will even upload it for players.

And yes, there should be a ban for insulting admins. Legit ban imo.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby csnafk » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:04 am

Nick wrote:And yes, there should be a ban for insulting admins. Legit ban imo.

Excluding continuous harassment, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Hermione » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:41 am

Nick wrote:And yes, there should be a ban for insulting admins. Legit ban imo.


I dont understand this sentence, are you implying that if a player/admin insults another player there should not be any ban? Because i see this daily in the channel. What makes insulting an admin of a game any different from insulting a player of the game that the admin is trying to look out for in the first place?
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby Hinata » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:07 am

It means, if an admin insults you, np. The opposite, ban.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby massie » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:31 am

getting banned for insulting an admin is downright pathetic doesnt even matter if the insulting is justified or not /ignore if u are sensitive for words
words dont hurt ppl if u cant handle angry ppl dont be an admin
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby snakeware » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:51 am

i still think all this was an revenge against ryan, well, if its true that flowx doesnt ever stack(even makes teams worst for him), then why he stacked this 1?, well prolly bc he saw ryan team was well fucked up, and also, there is no reason to ban a guy that is insulting you when you can just ignore it and solve the problem
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby JD » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:32 pm

A ban for insulting admins? what did he really say? NICK i find what you say ironic, past cheaters should make no comments about people who have been caught cheating. What i find suspicious is that you managed 95 head shots in sactf both maps where aiming for the head is very different. No one can manage to do that after their "3rd pug". What else i found funny is that during that pug i had more frags then you on EC2 and you randomly start hitting everything.... You were aiming down high side every time i am coming from there. You are magically "good" at everything because you got a BENQ monitor.
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Re: Another example of blatant admin abuse

Postby HUMPTY » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:53 pm

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