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Postby PACO » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:02 pm

Dear community,

A lot of people have been inquiring about how we will handle our cheat policy for UT99. This does not pertain to UT4 and other games we will be hosting however we will be releasing site-wide guidelines in the near future. I am now posting something formal to clarify how we will handle past cheaters and new cheaters moving forward.

Pug bans:
Players caught cheating will be banned from pugs for 18 months. Ban evasion results in the ban being reset and the player having to serve the full 18 months.

League/Tournament bans:
Players caught cheating will be banned from competitive play for 4 years. If you cheat/cheated, you will not be competing competitively for an Olympics. This means that anyone who cheated after October 26th, 2010 will not be eligible to play in competitive OwnedWell UT99 matches until the 4 years have elapsed.

Reasoning: We are in a new era of UT99. The anti-cheat updates are sparse and the community is a lot smaller. 18 month pug bans and 4 year competitive bans are harsh however this game is in a unique situation. We want tough bans but we also want light at the end of the tunnel. 4 year competitive bans should be a deterrent to those considering dabbing in the dark arts.

There have also been some inconsistencies with bans. IJ/Heltah were banned in 2011 and are currently ineligible however players who were caught cheating more recently were not officially banned. This is not fair and it is a reason why we are clarifying and remedying the situation.

Past cheaters (after 4 years) might be given stipulations on eligibility to play in competition/pugs. Failure to adhere to these stipulations will result in a failure to participate.

We hope everyone is understanding and hope to deal with less and less of these situations moving forward.

Sincerely,

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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby kylewins » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:07 pm

in the wise words of the great anty OUCHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby ttocston » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:26 pm

i approve of this.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby rev » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:29 pm

soooo.. does this mean players who were caught less than four years ago and were eligible for league play now are not?
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby Bryandigm- » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:35 pm

Very clear to me.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby Sauron » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:54 pm

Any harsher penalties for people who have cheated more than once?
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby XhackZ » Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:37 pm

No more apologize videos? Sad... we never or atleast me, never got the chance to see heltahs vid.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby flowX » Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:52 pm

I like
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby bbz » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:33 pm

bout time you man up and ban cheaters for more than 1 year, might actually scare them away from doing it
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby riven » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:33 pm

GREAT!
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby kE- » Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:27 pm

Feature request for site (sorry n0b) would be to have a c&a profile like on clanbase. That was actually one of the few things that clanbase did right.

Maybe go TF2 style and introduce a notion for people that weren't caught cheating. Or simply mark the people that were ex-cheaters :E

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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby KNOCKOUTDAD » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:18 pm

kE- wrote:Feature request for site (sorry n0b) would be to have a c&a profile like on clanbase. That was actually one of the few things that clanbase did right.

Maybe go TF2 style and introduce a notion for people that weren't caught cheating. Or simply mark the people that were ex-cheaters :E

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I don't really mind the idea i kind of like it. i know that other sites in the past has changed the title of those caught cheating in the past on the forums to reflect their cheating history.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby RickJames » Sun Oct 26, 2014 11:04 pm

[+sLY1838] thing is, if you cheat in a video game, you likely cheat in life
[+sLY1838] at register of grocery store
[+sLY1838] there are 2 people in front of u
[+sLY1838] but u go to the line first
[+sLY1838] thats cheating in life
[+sLY1838] someone who cheats in ut would have no shame driving down a city street with their brights on just so they could see better
[+sLY1838] someone who cheats at UT would make a fake coupon and take it to a small chain restaurant to get a free meal
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby PACO » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:49 am

rev wrote:soooo.. does this mean players who were caught less than four years ago and were eligible for league play now are not?

Players caught less than four years ago are ineligible. Heltah/IJ cheated and are still banned from their infraction in 2011. It would be inconsistent to allow a player who was caught cheating after to participate in the league.

At the minute, this policy directly affects Gizmo however we are going through logs to see who else it might affect. I think that Gizmo is a nice guy and I applaud the effort that he has shown towards the community, however it would not be fair to allow him to play and bar people who got caught cheating before him.

The terms of this policy are fixed and with UT99 in its 15th year, I don't think that we will re-visit it.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby RickJames » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:33 am

While all of you are applauding the new website and PACO's new cheating policies, you fail to see the real reason for all of this- to allow PACO's best friend the treacherous acro to return to league play next year
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby BeasT » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:56 am

RickJames wrote:While all of you are applauding the new website and PACO's new cheating policies, you fail to see the real reason for all of this- to allow PACO's best friend the treacherous acro to return to league play next year


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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby Sauron » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:10 am

Sauron wrote:Any harsher penalties for people who have cheated more than once?
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby HUMPTY » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:16 am

Sauron wrote:
Sauron wrote:Any harsher penalties for people who have cheated more than once?


We will cover their penis in honey and proceed to attach a hornets nest to said penis.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby Sauron » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:19 am

Sarcastic replies are not necessary.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby HULKSMASH » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:38 am

Not at the moment, no. But when the site-wide policy is released, cheaters across different game types and multiple time cheaters shall be discussed.

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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby senad* » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:43 am

gj guys
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby maestroLOQ » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:17 am

1 complete list of banned cheaters available? with cheated at XX , ban until XX

maybe an idea to also have a list which ppl who signed up for the ictf cup had a cheating history?
I only played 1x the cup now here, with solid in my team. It feels shit to have played that cup tbh, no positive feeling at all.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby rev » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:35 am

The main issue I had with the heltah case was that there didn't seem to be uniformity or a universal policy; which very easily leads to bias. Gj.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby HULKSMASH » Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:43 am

We will post a list of who is ineligible for season + date cheated/logged. There's not much point in adding the ending date, as it will always be +4 years from that date.
This will also include the people caught cheating while at GU.

We will not be doing a list of what cheater participated in what season of our previous community, as this has no added value.

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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby frauenarZt » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:29 pm

I kinda wanna cheat now so HULKSMASH will stop begging me to sign up for iCTF.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby HULKSMASH » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:31 pm

I asked you once. But now you mention it. Sign up for www.ownedwell.com/ictf/

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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby Morpheus » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:41 pm

Hi. This is suspicious.

Knowing the admin staff this is clearly a tweaked rule to affect gizmo/Nick. It is far easy to bar his entrance by adding this "new" rule than to ban him for cheating when it is still uncertain if he cheats or not.

Is he cheating? Maybe. Is this for the "greater good" of the community? Probably. Does this seem crafty and malicious? 100%. I know this sly and tricky stuff personally because i have witness it first hand, but it was always meaningless petty stuff, this is more serious business.

Gizmo was a solid contribution for the last 2 seasons? Captaining and as far as i know, not cheating (he was terrible <3). And lets face it GU = Owned Well. Yes, i like the new look and professionalism but it is essentially the same concept and same people.

At the top of my mind, there is people in the admin staff that got banned and logged VERY recently (won't say names because i don't see the relevance) and they clearly still contribute to the community and do not cheat (as far as i know). Even though less recently than gizmo did. But still the date is 2010 and i am not sure if the people i speak off don't fall into that category.

Anyway my 2 cents, and i really don't give a fuck about the subject as i am too tired about cheaters and fuck you all cheater noobs. But fair is fair and i had to robin hood that guy.

Do whatever you want, i couldn't care less.

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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby HULKSMASH » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:49 pm

You know nothing Jon Snow.

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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby Sauron » Mon Oct 27, 2014 3:59 pm

Morpheus wrote:At the top of my mind, there is people in the admin staff that got banned and logged VERY recently (won't say names because i don't see the relevance)
Do whatever you want, i couldn't care less.


Hiding cheaters is just as bad as cheating. If the community knew gizmo cheated in 2012, I assure you he would not have been participating last season.
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Re: OwnedWell UT99 Cheat Policy

Postby Morpheus » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:01 pm

HULKSMASH wrote:You know nothing Jon Snow.

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I know more shit than i should. Also been around way longer than you have.
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