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Postby Rum » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:37 am

I'm torn between buying either the i5-4690K and the i7-4790K. Now this computer will primarily be for streaming while gaming purposes while some programming as well. Not sure if I should be looking towards the future and buy the i7 or stick with the i5. I'd like anyone's input on this.
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby exixt » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:07 pm

The only difference between those two models is that the i7 has HT (Hyper-Threading). HT essentially means that each core can execute two threads at once. for programming purposes this can be great if whatever stuff is actually using multiple threads. 4 cores / 8 logical processors basically.
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby Sauron » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:13 pm

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Postby HULKSMASH » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:07 pm

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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby RickJames » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:30 pm

Unless your'e doing really cpu-intensive tasks like video editing or rendering shit, I have no idea why you'd need the hyper-threading.

For gaming, you just need something that won't bottleneck your gpu. Even the most cpu-intensive games out there, like GTA IV (not V) will run just as well on the older i5s as they do on anything else. Something like the i5-4460 won't bottleneck any gpu on the market. You might speculate that future games will start taking more advantage of the extra cores more, which is possible, but it isn't the trend.

For programming, you'd have to be writing something really cpu-intensive that's intended to take advantage of the hyper-threading (like a compression tool or something else involving a shit ton of math) for it to really make a difference.

I'm running an i5-2500k with my gtx980 and there's nothing my PC doesn't run amazingly, especially since many new, formerly cpu-intensive apps have started taking advantage of GPU acceleration anyways. Idk why people are recommending the i7.

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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby Hermione » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:55 pm

The actual difference is the i7 has a much higher benchmark score, than that i5. I would get only i7 for anything i use cause its just over all better in every way.
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby -swift- » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:18 pm

If you are buying both new motherboard, CPU, etc, considering the time, I wouldn't buy neither of those and would wait a bit more for Intel's new generation Skylake processors, Skylake-S series will be desktop processors (Core i7-6700K / Core i5-6600K). Skylake should be announced somewhere mid-august and able to purchase in late August/September. It will also support DDR4 and some other new things... Unless you are really in a hurry to buy a new CPU, in your place, I'd most definitely wait for Skylake.

i5 vs i7... Sure, i7 wouldn't hurt as it has hyper-threading, but for gaming, i5 is definitely more than enough. Small number of games are able to utilize more than 4 cores, where you would see a benefit of HT (higher FPS) and some games apparently don't work so well with HT enabled (slightly lower FPS and stuttering). Synthetic benchmarks don't mean much if he'll be using apps or do tasks that don't need/support more than 4 cores. To sum it up, i7 is definitely better overall, but for most things i5 will be more than enough or equal to i7. Only for the tasks that are hungry for more CPU cores, you will see the real difference and benefit of i7. Btw, I think i7 might help you more with streaming (depending on the stream quality).
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby blackout\\ » Thu Jun 11, 2015 4:13 am

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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby FALLACY » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:41 am

Go big or go home. Get the i7.
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby Lineage » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:47 am

Personally I'd get the i5 as it's OC capable and still a beast of a chip in it's own right (not to mention a fair bit cheaper) but I can see the appeal of going overkill by going i7, simply for the HT advantage.
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby Rum » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:42 am

So I see a lot of people talking about the Hyper-Threading. If the hyper-threading makes compiling a lot faster then yeah, I'll pick it up just for that. As for waiting for skylake, seems a bit overkill for me honestly. I thought about getting the 5820k but that seemed a bit overkill for me as well. The 4790k fits in my range and so did the i5 4690k but seems like for what I'm doing(mostly programming[lol fuck programming]), the i7 would work the best. I also do stream so to feel no input lag at the sametime as playing would be amazing as well so the i7 would help a lot.

Thanks for your input everyone.

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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby blackout\\ » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:52 am

P.S. Rum, if you're going to be streaming, I would highly suggest you invest in a GTX 600+. Accordingly to Steel + reflex, nvidia has a new encoder that takes advantage of the GPU for streaming instead of the CPU, making game play as smooth as possible.
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby Rum » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:27 pm

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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby finalzje » Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:14 pm

You won't notice the "extra" performance skylake brings to the table, iGPU wise its a ton better but since you dont use onboard graphics i'd just roll with the 4790K.
If performance isnt good enough wich i doubt, just do a mild overclock.
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby reflex » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:47 pm

Don't listen to anyone telling you to get an i5 when you made it very clear you plan on streaming. Both OBS and Xsplit support HT and if you look at the profiles of the big streamers these days, they have a minimum of a i7-4790k (I say minimum because dual PC setups, where one PC handles the encoding and the other plays games, are becoming common).

If you're in a hurry: Go for the i7.

If you aren't: Take swift's advice and wait for Skylake-S later this year.
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby RickJames » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:43 pm

I have an i5-2500k + gtx980 and there's nothing I can't stream at 60+ fps except for ridiculously unoptimized titles like metro etc. I get 100+ fps average in gta v with all gfx settings ultra/maxed except for AA etc at 1080p. My cpu isn't even breaking a sweat when I do so, and my gfx card is still silent. I can up the res to 4k and still get over 30 fps avg.

Dunno what game a streamer would need an i7, let alone a seperate pc, to stream. Definitely not league of legends, csgo, or ut lol
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

Postby tigerclaw » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:49 am

Get an i5

Spend the rest on a GYM membership and a hooker
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Re: Need some help from my cpu geeks

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