Official Game of Thrones thread *MINOR SPOILERS*

[Darkside]

weak finale
i r disappoint

[Monk]

Olly is a dick

[blade]

Et tu, Olly?

(only difference is that Julius Caesar deserved to die. Not the guy that did at the end of this finae episode though)

[kevinsan1ty]

He absolutely deserved to die from the perspective of his killer(s). What he was doing was unprecedented, and egregious to most of them.

They honestly could have just called Olly "goingtostabtheshitoutofyou" and it would have been less obvious what they were doing with him this season.

[blade]

Look at all the hate the Olly kid is getting
https://twitter.com/Brenock_OConnor

[DREW-TANg]

[InfamousRaider]

Wat? I thought this season was excellent!

[Sonic|^]

[kevinsan1ty]

I enjoyed the season overall. They have an impossible task, as the source material is pretty much dried up, and there's no telling when the next book will arrive.

[kE-]

[blade]

[Viperzz^]

Weak finale tbh. Battle of Winterfell in 1 min? Does Brienne have a fucking GPS or some shit? Encounters Arya, Sansa and now is able to single out Stannis in a fucking war that's just hilarious lol. Dorne was the worst plotline in the entire show. I can't believe someone actually wrote that sentence with the bad pussy part.. so cringy lol. The unsullied are poor as fuck too. Thank God there was still hardhome.

Another point is how negative the show is, like .. it feels like they want to make the bad guys win every damn time. Where are the stark loyalists? The books are full of them and they actually do shit. Not to mention Sansa was just a victim once again. Inb4 she goes to the wall thinking Jon will be there to help her.

Hoping next season will be better..

[Sonic|^]

[NakedMan]

Did they skip on the pink letter on the show?

[kevinsan1ty]

[Viperzz^]

[blade]

I read a theory on Jon Snow..

[Viperzz^]

[PACO]

Read the books dorks..

[kevinsan1ty]

[PACO]

[blade]

[PACO]

[kud]

Jon snow's death made more sense in the books

[PACO]

[kud]

I guess I can't be upset though, because all of these missing story arcs nearly make the book an entirely original experience for anyone who chooses to read them after the show.

[blade]

[PACO]

[blade]

It is a question of whether what Jon was doing was in the best interests of the greater good, of the realm. That I would agree with andrew and believe it was. Another question to consider is whether the ends justify the means.. To Jon they did but maybe they didn't for the ones that killed Jon..

Keep in mind that the vows were intended to ensure the members of the black brothers understood what was at stake (the realm and its people). Initially, it did not comprise of killers, rapists, and other criminals. I read that when they built the wall, it was considered honorable to take the black. Oath was not originally to keep the brothers in check but it over time has become that as only criminals and the banished mostly become brothers nowadays. So I would say that the oath was meant more of a compass for guidance than anything else. Jon and even Mormont realized that.

Think of the US constitution (or Canada). They kept the words flexible without forcing you to govern a specific way down to the exact laws. In a similar manner, the words of the oath are kept somewhat flexible that you are not forced to govern the brothers a certain way.. There is some leeway - they certainly don't say anything about the wildlings so you know what? I don't see how Jon is in the wrong. He put saving the realm over everything.

Another thing to consider.. To me, protecting the realm is more important than any vows, but how would the few black brothers protect the realm on their own? The realm itself forced Jon's hand.

As for the purpose of the wall..
We never found out yet who the white walkers are, where they exactly come from, and why they come. Only then will we find out the true purpose of the wall. We also need to know how the first men were able to fight off the walkers before the wall was put up. Was there some sort of agreement between the walkers and the first men? Raises more questions than answers

[csnafk]

S5E08 was the best episode the show ever produced and tbh S5 was the lamest season of them all. The holy shit moments between episodes 8-10 should have been spread out and rearranged throughout the season and the second half of S5E08 should have been the finale while the major oshit moment at the end of E10 should have been in next season. If E08 was the finale literally everyone watching the show is the equivalent of a meth head dry for too long. The S6 premier would break records for television and rather than billions of theories circling the internet for 9 months it would only be for a week. Everyone knows the writers are trying their best to change the books so that way the show can be unpredictable but they put themselves in a bad spot at the end of S5. Could have been an incredible start to S6