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Postby PACO » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:51 pm

Dear OwnedWellians,

Effective immediately.. FALLACY will be unbanned from #iPug and competitive play. FALLACY was banned back in May 2014 when a compelling case with detailed evidence was brought up against him. It took several months to process but in the end, the GlobalUnreal anti-cheat team (including me) voted to ban him. In hindsight, if we had all of the information that we have today, we would have voted differently.

The option to appeal the ban was offered to FALLACY after he was banned. For several months, FALLACY was making cases and bringing up points but there was nothing compelling enough to overturn the ban. That changed after he discovered pertinent evidence and information on an external hard drive that was analyzed and compared by the anticheat team. The new information was more than enough to create reasonable doubt and reflection and that is why FALLACY will be returning as a regular member of the OwnedWell community.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, they can speak with me.

Sincerely,

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Postby Viperzz^ » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:53 pm

Welcome back
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Postby Banko » Fri Feb 06, 2015 1:56 pm

Finally.
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Postby KillEmAll » Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:16 pm

Nice.
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Postby Hermione » Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:59 pm

Welcome back buddy! xD
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Postby Sonic|^ » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:15 pm

Lol someone was actually freed after being banned. That's a first.
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Postby kevinsan1ty » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:15 pm

aka biz<NeO>/bizmonkey

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Postby Sauron » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:29 pm

This unban is almost as hasty as the original ban. Why not have in-person verification done prior to a decision, since it was seemingly very close to fruition?
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Postby KNOCKOUTDAD » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:33 pm

[16:28:28] [%KNOCKOUTDAD`freefallacy] today is a victory.
[16:28:32] • Nick: (KNOCKOUTDAD`freefallacy) is now known as (KNOCKOUTDAD)
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Postby Xenoscythe » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:46 pm

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Postby FALLACY » Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:49 pm

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Postby Sauron » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:04 pm

If an innocent gets unjustly punished, haste is often the reason. I'm not talking purely time, either. If Fallacy is innocent, more time should have been spent in reviewing the methods used to "catch" him, as clearly they were off base. This would have prevented the unjust ban in the first place. In turn, now that he is unbanned - if he does, indeed, cheat, the in-person verification could very well have led to him performing poorly/demos show his aim is not nearly the same as in the evidence reviewed, thus reenforcing the ban. Because the unban was announced prior to the in-person verification, we will never find out the truth.
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Postby wndg » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:17 pm

more sweeps the merrier
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Postby flowX » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:18 pm

Saying ban or unban was hasty is just strange since u dont know when work at the ban/unban really started outside of the public threads.
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Postby Sauron » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:30 pm

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Postby CrashedMC » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:39 pm

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Postby atr0city » Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:52 pm

Wether or not fallacy was cheating I guess will remain unknown. But, I will say that I think it's the correct move to unban him given that he was banned for way less then any of the countless evidence that has been put forth on gizmo, so it wouldn't be right to keep him banned.

Here is how she goes

1. Sweeping (what I was banned for) is now considered by this genius group of admins to be totally a normal way to aim in this game. Sweeping across your screen extremely fast, yet still managing to fire your weapon on the very edge of hit hitbox 40 times in one map. That's normal now guys, very normal. Just make sure you spam, and intentionally miss from time to time to keep your acc down. Otherwise, you'll shoot 60 acc aiming this way like I did.. and you might get banned, herp derp.

2. If you were really bad, or average at best then suddenly became better then everyone over night... Don't worry, that's normal too. Logical thinking has no place in catching cheaters. Just tell everyone you got a fancy new computer, and changed the way you aim to sweeping across your screen as quickly as possible. Having a new computer does magical things.. don't worry, they'll believe you.

3. Some videos, screen shots, or otherwise starting to come down on you from people who know you're cheating? Hey, don't worry! Just lie some more, come up with ridiculous bullshit reasoning to explain the shit you pull every map. The anti-cheat team will believe you, so don't worry. But look, if you're feeling a bit scared.. don't panic! Just post a video of yourself livestreaming! It doesn't matter if you're playing notably worse while streaming, or that it's very easy to cheat while streaming, it doesn't matter!!.. this will put no doubt into the admins mind that you are the most legit player ever.

Things aren't what they used to be, anti-cheat is 13 years old and stops nothing. Demos, used to be a means to catch people.. but have now been proven to be an impossible way to get someone banned. Because, nothing short of shooting 70 acc every pug and doing a 1080 sweep monster kill will get you banned.

The Anti Cheat Team (LOLOLOL) none of them play UT, or care, but don't worry.. according to them they are all experts on cheats and what to look for.. The game will remain clean under their watch.

On a side note, welcome back fallacy.
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Postby m3ss » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:03 pm

Welcome back, bro. Now let's go play some more Counter-Strike! :lol:
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Postby tigerclaw » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:14 pm

<+Sauron`> and he should have never been banned in the first place

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Postby Sakura|FACE » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:28 pm

Welcome back Fallacy!
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Postby PACO » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:31 pm

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Postby atr0city » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:41 pm

The reason you're calling me out is because it's me. And you don't like me. Let's be honest here. And, you don't like when people speak their minds and stand up to the bullshit the goes on around here.

Calling me toxic because I happen to care a lot that someone is cheating so beyond blatantly and has gotten away with it, is ridiculous. Say what you want about me, but I love this game and hate seeing it ruined by someone, and that's all any of it comes down to.
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Postby Bryandigm- » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:51 pm

FALLACY\\ babe, I missed you man, Now lets shoot em guns. Ready man? See you around, Welcome back.
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Postby Hermione » Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:33 pm

SO um guys, does fallacy get his admin back, maybe we can switch one of the current admins for fallacy! :lol: It would be more useful.
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Postby csnafk » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:20 am

I STUCK WITH YOU BABY

I LOVE YOU BRO

WELCOME BACK TO SHIT

MISSED YOU LOTS

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Postby Darkside » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:12 am

a judgement call on nick has been overdue... just didn't expect it to be this nick...
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