The Road to Redemption...

Jump to: Board indexCommunityGeneral discussion

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby FALLACY » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:05 pm

User avatar
FALLACY
 
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:20 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby Hinata » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:14 pm

Hinata
 
Posts: 101
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:55 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby MP/5 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:35 pm

never had anything against you fallacy and i would take you over the fake nick in a heartbeat, but the people who commented in this thread are the same vocal people (friends) who said you weren't cheating when you got banned... i don't think you really changed too many people's opinion about your ban.
Image
MP/5
 
Posts: 64
Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:57 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby krm` » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:58 pm

#occupyownedwell #freefallacy

I am impressed with the effort being shown in clearing one's name and reputation, especially on the notion that this game is going on 16 years of age. S-I-X-T-E-E-N Y-E-A-R-S. #fml.

If only the effort of reviewing countless amounts of demos, holding meetings, developing maps, pugging, building up an owned well "community", hosting live streams, creating graphics, creating NEWNET, writing novel posts of predictions/recaps/player bios, etc. etc. was actually molded into an effort of BUILDING an actual anti-cheat system or even deconstructing an existing one, all these cases would become a moot point. Sure, coding something for a 16 year old game, against cheating nonetheless, seems silly, but yet we are all still here.

Anyways...

With that said, I enjoyed playing with this guy, especially on our epic boost 10 second cap base to base (High), with rummy as the flag runner, to send the game into OT and eventually win the game on bleak. Brought immediate chuckles (especially from Rummy), and fun to this ancient game.
krm`
 
Posts: 29
Joined: Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:48 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby vitrae » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:05 pm

Image
User avatar
vitrae
 
Posts: 54
Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:49 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby Xenoscythe » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:14 pm

Image
Xenoscythe
 
Posts: 172
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:17 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby KNOCKOUTDAD » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:00 am

from the beginning. fallacy. free the man.
KNOCKOUTDAD
 
Posts: 77
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:11 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby flowX » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:07 am

People without any ac knowledge trying to help fallacy cause they are Friends.Should feel strange while finding out he was cheating and u still typed freefallacy all over the place..*

there been many hard calls and demos over the past years..last years of clanbase too.
But fallacy was one of the easiest ones to catch ..at least for myself.
there are still some activ people on ACT with a good knowledge. u guys shouldnt forget about this.

---> fallacy guilty


by a side note. .Nice to read all the great stuff about u always beein a fair and nice player :)
All I remember is u beein a Monster Ego whining and flaming on ur team m8ts while losing and even leave the server at a league game and leave ur team alone cause u cba to lose.

I guess u Got ur own reality at some parts.
There are some people in here which doin this ac stuff Since 15 years and spent a stupid amout of time to get the knowledge which is needed.
u cheated and u know that and im really annoyed about u trying to make ACT look useless cause u cant handle ur own mistake

bye
Last edited by flowX on Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
flowX
 
Posts: 232
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:59 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby HUMPTY » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:35 am

Image
HUMPTY
 
Posts: 180
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:28 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby flowX » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:04 am

nvm
flowX
 
Posts: 232
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:59 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby Sauron » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:55 am

Still inconclusive. I'd still like to see Fallacy go to Pete's house or something and put up the numbers he does (or someone well versed in computing to go to Fallacy's house and watch him play, monitoring everything carefully). It wouldn't necessarily prove he didn't cheat before, but if the demos created in those tests produce the same results as seen by the ACT, it is fairly reliable evidence to the contrary.
Image
User avatar
Sauron
 
Posts: 445
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:35 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby Hermione » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:49 pm

Sauron, this is the problem, fallacy has volunteered many times to go to admins house or they come to him, to watch and spec him play in person. But the admins didn't take up the offer for who knows what reasons. He has offered many players, not just admins of gu. They don't seem interested though. :?
Image
User avatar
Hermione
banned
 
Posts: 269
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:25 am
Location: Burlington, Vermont

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby xios » Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:55 pm

xios
 
Posts: 69
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2014 2:25 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby FALLACY » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:42 pm

User avatar
FALLACY
 
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:20 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby Morpheus » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:14 am

demos are and will always be too inconclusive lol ACT did amazing on watching all these demos but it is a pointless endeavor lol i would be a hypocrite to not say that demos are close to nothing on such a speedy game. I am the living proof of that. Some people that posted here also said my clips were beyond human capability and yet i'm not a cyborg (that would be cool tho)

I agree though there are easy cases but i highly doubt fallacy was that easy and even though i did not watch any clips i can say i would always give him the benefit of the doubt and this being a small game and since you faggots have access to him, let him redeem himself and see if he is capable of performing like that on your PC.

"blablablabalbla taht doesnt prove anything", guess what faggot go suck a dick.

I can tell you Fellatio you are doing a pointless campaign and nothing will come out of it. I understand though....last resort ;)

best of luck friend

Morpheus
 
Posts: 260
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:00 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby flowX » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:33 pm

flowX
 
Posts: 232
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:59 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby linoleumbonaparte » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:44 pm

free fallacy. he doesn't cheat. stop being idiots and banning good, active players who don't deserve it.

i don't like fallacy, but he came to play 2k4 a while back and his aim immediately translated (shooting ~45% shock primary/sniper) while he was learning game dynamics and weapons CTF.

again, stop being idiots, idiots.
linoleumbonaparte
 
Posts: 39
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:44 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby toymac » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:42 pm

toymac
 
Posts: 5
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:25 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby rev » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:44 pm

I think this is a strong indicator of whether or not somebody cheats. If they're good at video games across the board or just UT. Fallacy is also a very good CS player. I suppose it's possible that somebody could be cheating in every game they play if they're cheating in UT but it doesn't seem that plausible. I give props to the ACT team for investing the amount of time they do to help keep this game clean, and I think flaming them or calling them idiots is extremely out of line, but I don't think they got it right in this instance.
rev
 
Posts: 159
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:56 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby Sauron » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:33 pm

Image
User avatar
Sauron
 
Posts: 445
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:35 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby RickJames » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:41 pm

Being good at other games isn't much of an indicator of anything. Nobody denies that Fallacy was a good player before the cheating scandal, just like heltah and blackout. It's not surprising that he's good at other games. Plenty of convicted cheaters were/are great gamers in general.

PS. Shooting 45% shock/lg in newnet 2k4 isn't super special. When I installed the game for the first time, I popped in xios' config, hopped in a TAM server and had 40% lg in my first game ever, with random mouse settings etc. You have big, floaty brightskin models and it registers even if you don't hit the player model directly.
Image
RickJames
 
Posts: 332
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:16 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby Hinata » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:52 pm

CS is not a good example anyway. Everyone can be ranked supreme master or to the very least, legendary eagle.

What makes Fallacy guilty is probably that there are a lot of demos like the bleak one. A consistency of this move would make anybody very suspicious.
You can maybe explain one of them... but what if you have like 20 clips of that?
Hinata
 
Posts: 101
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:55 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby rev » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:25 pm

/logic
rev
 
Posts: 159
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:56 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby FALLACY » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:27 pm

User avatar
FALLACY
 
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:20 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby blackout\\ » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:49 am

Image
blackout\\
 
Posts: 209
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:01 am
Location: Los Angeles, California

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby flowX » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:16 am

flowX
 
Posts: 232
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:59 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby FALLACY » Tue Jan 20, 2015 7:45 am

I asked a member of the admin team what I could possibly do to help get vitz off my back when this all started to go down because I was tired of being harassed by him on a daily basis for no reason. After a night of him bashing me more than usual this was suggested and I decided it wouldn't hurt. Too bad there are still a handful of close minded individuals who think what I do is impossible even when the proof is preaented right to them.

I get it though, it's easier to just leave me banned than actually admit to being wrong and having everyone question their abilities.
User avatar
FALLACY
 
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:20 am

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby Sonic|^ » Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:04 pm

Image
Sonic|^
 
Posts: 214
Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:18 pm

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby blade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:07 pm

Image

Hope. Inspire. Dream. Live.
User avatar
blade
 
Posts: 251
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:14 am
Location: USA

Re: The Road to Redemption...

Postby jaydrade » Tue Jan 20, 2015 3:52 pm

Aven wins Championships ©
User avatar
jaydrade
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:00 pm

PreviousNext

Return to General discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests

cron